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New York Times 'Talk to the Newsroom'
Eric Thayer, Photographer
New York | NY | USA | Posted: 4:52 PM on 07.11.06
->> This is a pretty interesting feature on the New York Times website:

http://www.nytimes.com/ref/business/media/asktheeditors.html
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Justin Kase Conder, Photographer
Fresno | CA | USA | Posted: 7:57 PM on 07.11.06
->> Interesting... most of her answers are ones that I am familiar with, but there were a few insightful tidbits there. Thanks for sharing.

kase
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Ron Erdrich, Photographer
Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 10:03 PM on 07.11.06
->> I'm trying to remember the last time that I saw the NYT advertising for a photographer. I can't say that I've ever seen it on the JIB and I've been an NPPA member since '97.

-Ron-
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Dave Cheng, Photographer
Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 10:18 PM on 07.11.06
->> The last reader asks:

"What gets my goat is the waste of space. ... All too often, though, we will get a blank "wall" with just a piece of it interesting. An example was the Secretary General addressing the United Nations. He could have been cropped to a one-column shot ... why waste a quarter of our front page on blank walls and empty seas?"

Hmm.
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Fredrik Naumann, Photographer
Oslo | Oslo | Norway | Posted: 6:39 AM on 07.12.06
->> Is this true: "You are prohibited from shooting bridges and tunnels, less so the subway."?

So images like these would be illegal to shoot today then?

http://www.dkohnstudios.com/brooklynbridge.htm

http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/nypd/pix/vehicles/rmp01.gif

http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us./bandt/html/bbt.htm
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Ken Ritchie, Photographer
Madison | IN | USA | Posted: 11:05 AM on 07.12.06
->> Dave,

I have to agree with the last reader's question. It seems like photojournalism goes through trends and fads like any other industry.

Lately, I have seen a lot of photos with maybe the head of a person wearing a bicycle helmet (or some other small glimpse of subject matter) in a bottom corner and nothing but a textured wall filling 90% of the rest of the photo. Is the photographer telling a story about the wall or the cyclist?

I have seen this kind of shot done well a couple of times, but in most cases, I am left with so little information that it becomes a gimmicky picture instead of a photojournalistic document.

These shots may be artsy and look good on a wall, and it may even work as part of a larger photo package that gives more information to the reader, but as a single photo it is fairly useless.

I was taught by one of my college instructors to always ask, "What is the purpose of this picture?" and "Why am I showing it to the world?"

The purpose of a photojournalist's photo is to inform, not to confuse, or distract a reader.

We should keep the art in the gallery and tell as much of a story as we can in each photo that goes into print or on our paper's Web sites.

That's not to say our news photos cannot be artistically pleasing, but they must also be relevant and have purpose.

I'm rambling...
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Michael P. King, Student/Intern, Photographer
Appleton | WI | USA | Posted: 10:30 PM on 07.12.06
->> Yes, Ken...

But the person who asked the question was basically proposing that the NYT look like the Wall Street Journal.

I guess there are some people who simply want words... I don't know who but I suppose they are out there.

I have a feeling that many people take photographs in their newspapers for granted and they wouldn't realize their reliance on and appreciation of visual journalism until god-forbid it disappeared.

--MK
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Ken Ritchie, Photographer
Madison | IN | USA | Posted: 10:33 AM on 07.13.06
->> Mike,

I didn't see the Wall Street Journal proposal. I am refering to the part of the reader's comment that states:
"All too often, though, we will get a blank "wall" with just a piece of it interesting. An example was the Secretary General addressing the United Nations...why waste a quarter of our front page on blank walls and empty seas?"

Maybe we are getting two different ideas from his comment.

Ken
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Andrew McGovern, Photographer
Tokyo | Japan | Japan | Posted: 7:25 AM on 07.15.06
->> Eric,

This is an excellent link. Just an FYI to everybody: it's been updated a few times since Eric posted it last Tuesday and now the list of Q&A is much longer. Have a look at her slideshow links, too, especially the one to her most memorable shots.
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Wally Nell, Photographer
CAIRO | EG | EGYPT | Posted: 9:02 AM on 07.15.06
->> Ken, perhaps the empty seats tell part of the story...
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Ron Erdrich, Photographer
Abilene | TX | USA | Posted: 10:46 PM on 07.15.06
->> Make sure you check out the slideshow at the end, it's pretty fun.

-Ron-
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Danny Gawlowski, Student/Intern, Photographer
Beijing | Haidian Distric | China | Posted: 1:51 AM on 07.16.06
->> Here's to newsrooms chatting to the public about how decisions are made. Watch any movie depicting a newsroom or listen to a call-in show concerning the media: people generally don't understand what journalists do or how ed boards make decisions. There's a real gap between editors and readers. Let's open up a bit and explain the thought and discussion that goes into every story.

Props to the news organizations out there who are doing this type of work.
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James Nix, Photographer
Brunswick | GA | USA | Posted: 2:11 AM on 07.16.06
->> I really appreciate the transparency the Times is showing with this series. While most of us know the answers to the questions asked, I think it is nice they are putting it out there for everyone to read.

I know I get caught up in what I am trying to photograph each day and forget that people are on the other side looking at my two big cameras and wondering "who is this guy?" I hope features like this might help the public to understand why we're laying on the ground or standing on stools to get a different shot.
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David Guralnick, Photographer
Detroit | MI | USA | Posted: 5:31 PM on 07.16.06
->> I'm also interested in the comment about not shooting bridges. It seems unclear to me how shooting a bridge from a public space could be illegal. And how is making it illegal protecting us from anything?
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