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Ethics Questions
Ryan Gardner, Photographer
Corvallis | OR | USA | Posted: 12:27 PM on 02.09.06
->> We talk about ethics every day, but does the public -- the people who see our pictures -- know what we mean, why we make the decisions we do, or that we even have ethics?

A friend of mine and professor at Linfield College in McMinnville, Ore., is working on a study of photojournalism ethics and he needs as many photojournalists as possible to complete a short survey so that he has a statistically significant sample.

Not only that, he's donating $1 for each survey completed to the NPPA Reid Blackburn Scholarship Fund, up to a total of $1,000. Reid was a fellow graduate of Linfield and was killed 25 years ago in the eruption of Mount St. Helens.

So please, take a couple of minutes and take the survey -- you might even learn something about yourself!

The survey is at:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=541741412408

You can read the full press release on the NPPA website:
http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2006/02/survey.html
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 6:13 PM on 02.09.06
->> To answer the question in the first line:

NO. They couldn't really care less.

Honestly
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Jenny Cecil, Photographer
Orlando (The Villages) | FL | USA | Posted: 6:14 PM on 02.09.06
->> I took the survey, short, easy and can't wait to see the results. Thanks Ryan.
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Chuck Steenburgh, Photographer, Photo Editor
Lexington | VA | USA | Posted: 9:06 PM on 02.09.06
->> Ugh.

Your professor friend will not have a "statistically significant sample" no matter how many responses he gets via this method.

You CAN'T get a statistically significant sample in this manner. There's one requirement: such a sample has to be RANDOMLY SELECTED. Which means that EVERY photojournalist out there must have as much chance as every other photojournalist as being part of the sample.

If he's waiting for people to "sign up," then that's not random. He can collect as many surveys as he wants, but he will have no assurance whatsoever that the views expressed are representative of anything, other than the feelings of that specific group of photojournalists who completed the survey.

And there's an ethics lesson for you...don't use non-random samples and try to pass it off as statistically significant...
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Marc F. Henning, Photographer
Bentonville | AR | USA | Posted: 9:17 PM on 02.09.06
->> i did the survey. painfully redundant questions, but hopefully worthwhile for the industry in the long run.

marc
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William Jurasz, Photographer, Assistant
Cedar Park | TX | USA | Posted: 10:04 PM on 02.09.06
->> Chuck is correct. Your professor friend will get a lot of opinions and input. However, he will not get "a statistically significant sample" using his approach. This is fine if he simply needs a lot of input, which he will surely get. But if he is looking to say "x% of journalists think y" he won't get it.

He should re-think if this is even worth his time or money.
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Ryan Gardner, Photographer
Corvallis | OR | USA | Posted: 7:38 PM on 02.10.06
->> Sorry that I didn't use the correct term. 'Statistically significant' were my own words.

This is what I was trying to say in fewer words than this: He's trying to get as many professional photojournalists as possible to contribute to this survey so that the data is from a larger cross-section of photographers and thus a little more relevant.
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Mike Purcell, Photographer
goodyear | AZ | USA | Posted: 8:11 PM on 02.10.06
->> actually you were correct.
statistical significance is dependent on the nature of the data, the comparative volume of the data, the choice of the statistic used and the level of significance chosen after the statistic has been chosen.
the issue is the randomness of the sample and its applicability to the profession as a whole.

mike
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Caleb Bushner, Student/Intern, Photographer
Mcminnville | OR | USA | Posted: 2:13 AM on 02.14.06
->> I am the student collaborator on this project and would also like to encourage everyone to take the survey. I have a lot going on right now so I don’t want to really get into a discussion of our methodology on the message boards, but if you would like to provide input regarding our survey please contact Professor Thompson and myself. I don’t know what the ss.com policy is for posting e-mail addresses in the message boards, but you can certainly contact me (and by extension, Professor Thompson) through my member page.

Thank you all for your contributions, we really hope that our study (and those like it) will help the future of our profession.

-Caleb Bushner
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