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Cool Japanese Tilt/Shift site
Seh Suan Ngoh, Photographer
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Singapore | SG | Singapore | Posted: 9:43 AM on 01.28.06 |
->> A friend showed this to me, though it has absolutely nothing to do with Sports/News photos... this is indeed refreshing! All photos are apparently... REAL and not scale models!
http://blog.so-net.ne.jp/photolog/archive/c22183 |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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New England | | USA | Posted: 9:48 AM on 01.28.06 |
->> Those are some really cool photos.
The very even lighting in all the images does make it look like a model. Very odd that the lighting is the same in some many natural light images. |
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John Lee, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 9:56 AM on 01.28.06 |
->> very cool.
check out this guy's work. also not so sporty, but i bet there can be some sort of cool application of this kind of work in sports.
http://www.davidlevinthal.com |
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Seh Suan Ngoh, Photographer
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Singapore | SG | Singapore | Posted: 10:13 AM on 01.28.06 |
->> I just found out that there's some EXIF info appended to the images, if you click on those with links on the main blog page - once you click again on the larger images, you'd see the EXIF info. Seems like his technique is to shoot when the clouds are up... exposures are for pretty low light.
I'm bowled over! |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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New England | | USA | Posted: 10:35 AM on 01.28.06 |
->> OK
My goal for this week. Crack out my 24f3.5 T/S and figure out how to make my photos look as clean as this guy's pix.
Maybe I need to convince my wife that I need the 90f3.5 T/S as well (although I have been lobbying for that lens for a while). |
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James Nielsen, Photographer
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Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 10:48 AM on 01.28.06 |
| ->> Check out David Burnett's sportsshooter page and his website, he does amazing work ! |
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Jason Sipes, Photographer
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Altoona | PA | USA | Posted: 10:54 AM on 01.28.06 |
| ->> some of these really look like models. look at the circle of construction workers. These folks would need the ability to fly to get some of the angles. The airport is real but the toilets with the crow is just a model. |
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Seh Suan Ngoh, Photographer
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Singapore | SG | Singapore | Posted: 11:03 AM on 01.28.06 |
->> Woah... Burnett's work is amazing!
Oh great, now I've found another potential drainhole that my $$$ would flow out to... |
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John Lee, Photographer
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San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 11:10 AM on 01.28.06 |
->> wow! got onto david burnett's website and look at the 2004 olympics stuff.
http://www.davidburnett.com
that's what i call sports photography! ditch that 600mm and give me a toyo field camera! |
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Robert Benson, Photographer
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San Diego | CA | USA | Posted: 12:35 PM on 01.28.06 |
->> This got me excited, looking at those Japanese tilt shift pictures. I immediately went nuts looking for other examples on the internet, and found a hack for making a shift lens for 35mm by using a medium format lens and some plumbing parts.
I'm off to the hardware store now!
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dennisonbertram.com/hackm... |
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Jack Howard, Photographer
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Somerville | NJ | USA | Posted: 12:51 PM on 01.28.06 |
->> That's pretty neat stuff from Japan...
Also check out Joan Steiner's Look-Alikes
http://tinyurl.com/d47x3
for really cool tableaus made of everyday objects such as clothespins, safety pins, bottlecaps and such...
And Walter Wick's Optical Tricks:
http://tinyurl.com/akmsb
is a book full of all these Escheresque photographs of impossible shapes and such... |
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Seh Suan Ngoh, Photographer
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Singapore | SG | Singapore | Posted: 1:26 PM on 01.28.06 |
| ->> The same friend showed me this link.... but I wonder how much a Carl Zeiss lens would cost for the experiment. I'm not sure if the meter for my Canon would work with no electrical connection at all. Anyone tried this before? |
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Bob Croslin, Photographer
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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New England | | USA | Posted: 2:02 PM on 01.28.06 |
->> David Burnett is possibly the most complete photographer working today (if not ever).
.....the closest I think I may ever get to his skill level is having shot the photo of him the New York Times used to close out thier web story on him......maybe his greatness will rub off on me from that photo. |
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Ron Scheffler, Photographer
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Hamilton (Toronto area) | Ontario | Canada | Posted: 3:27 AM on 01.29.06 |
->> I must say that many of those images do look like a train set. Even the trees look fake.
Steven, the 24 is pretty cool, but I've found that the 45 is the best TS-E lens for this effect because of it's normal focal length. Throw in an extreme tilt, and suddenly something that would otherwise have looked "normal" looks like it's a scale model. I think part of the reason is if you were ever to photograph a model diorama and use a regular camera & moderately wide lens at such close shooting distances, the depth of field will be much shallower than if you were photographing a real life object at 50 feet. To get the same effect as in real life, you'd need to use a much smaller imaging sensor and much shorter focal length.
This model like look is also apparent in some of the work by Mark Tucker. If you look through his Berlin gallery, you'll see the hotel roof shot... looks like a model (oversized golf balls also help the illusion).
http://www.marktucker.com/r_berlinprague/source/golfballroof.html
http://www.marktucker.com/r_berlinprague/source/holocaustmemorial.html |
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Corey Perrine, Photographer
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Kansas City | MO | USA | Posted: 3:50 AM on 01.29.06 |
->> Robert Benson,
Thanks for that great link. I think I will go to the hardware store too. Nothing like being on assignment and people saying, "What the heck is that?" It's always good to keep people thinking. You can always respond with made up terminology. "It's my flux capacitator used to stop down the frapter valve during visual porlaroid transfer osmosis." LOL. |
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Frank Victores, Photographer
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Ft Thomas | KY | USA | Posted: 7:54 AM on 01.29.06 |
| ->> What about using a Lens Baby ? |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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New England | | USA | Posted: 11:07 AM on 01.29.06 |
->> Ron
I already own the 24f3.5 t/s, which is why it is easier to experiment with the effect. I have used both the 45 and 90 t/s and really love the 90 t/s. In an idea world I'll end up with all three,but I love the 24f3.5 t/s for portraits.
....Frank. The LensBaby has some really cool effects, I use mine all the time, I have even shot magazine covers with it, but the look of a LensBaby cannon be compared to a Canon Tilt-Shift or Nikon Perspective Control lens by any means. |
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Ron Scheffler, Photographer
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Hamilton (Toronto area) | Ontario | Canada | Posted: 3:35 PM on 01.29.06 |
| ->> Well, I guess it also depends on the subject matter. You could put a 1.4x on the 24... don't think the 2x would be a good idea, though you never know... |
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Dan Routh, Photographer
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Greensboro | NC | USA | Posted: 6:37 PM on 01.29.06 |
| ->> Do a Google search on Hartblei. |
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Cameron Davidson, Photographer
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Arlington | VA | USA | Posted: 6:57 PM on 01.29.06 |
->> I have a really radical idea. (This is not a hijack of this thread - just a series of thoughts and suggestions)
How about this: stop looking at web sites of other photographers, forget about this-and-that technique, don't try to copy others style of shooting and do something that is good for you in the long run. Sit down and quietly go through your own work over the course of your career, look at the themes that run through the images and why they feel important. Then look through the photo books of people who work you admire because of how or what they shoot.
Then, decide: do I want to make pictures like Burnett or Tucker or do I want to make MY pictures in MY style that have MY imprint on them.
So many people go ga-ga over other photographers work that they forget what is special and important in there own photography. I count myself as being very lucky to have David and Mark as friends. I like their images. They are emotional and pull you in - they also are very much about who they are and how they see the world.
I think all this stuff is fun to look at - but in the end - your career and rep is made by the images you created - and hopefully - that is your distinct vision that is sep. from technique. |
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
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New England | | USA | Posted: 12:47 AM on 01.30.06 |
->> Cameron
It is not that many people want to shoot like another photographer, or want the style of another photographer, it is that (at least for me) I can pick up ideas from other photographers.
Take in new information, look at things you never thought of, learn these new things and adapt it to yourself, your style and then own it. |
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andrew wilz, Photographer
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Aspen | CO | usa | Posted: 1:30 AM on 01.30.06 |
->> Google a company called "Salamander" .. It's some kind of T+S software plug-in for Photoshop. I just ran into another shooter-friend of mine today up on top of the booter at the bottom of the slopestyle course, who was shooting with a 14mm and he was talking about this new program he just got that he can do all kinds of things with distortion and T+S, that i wouldn't believe...
I'll check it out as soon as i unbury myself from all this XGames stuff... but YOU should have a look into it...
:D |
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Cameron Davidson, Photographer
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Arlington | VA | USA | Posted: 7:51 AM on 01.30.06 |
->> Steven,
You are right about learning and absorbing. I've also seen a fair amount of messages from people on forums (Sportsshooter included) who just want to know how to make these type of pictures to complete an assignment
I also suggested that you look at work you admire. I've just seen a lot of young photographers with portfolios that are copied or heavily influenced by prominent shooters and I think it is important that people be aware of their own style.
It seems you can do everything via software now - there is a company that makes a plug-in for CS2 that replicates all the great old film stocks - AGFA 500, Kodachrome 200 with that great pink cast, Velvia, etc.
Tucker came to his style via a lot of testing with handmade lenses, a GX 680 camera and then via extensive layers in Photoshop. Burnett shoots with everything and his 4x5 sports a lens that is not designed for that camera.
Yes, the tilt/shift thing is cool, but so is a lens baby (for about three minutes) but then so was tilted horizons, motion shake blur and the great copycat influence in the early nineties of Hosemaster pictures - little globs of light creating depth and everything looking the same. Trends. That is all. David and Mark's work transcend (I hate that word) trends - because of who they are and the body of work they have created over the course of their career.
My guess in less than two years, people will be sick to death of lensbaby type photographs unless they are handled with great care and actually contribute to the impact and depth of the photograph. |
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