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who is the best newspaper photog of all time?
Tom Ervin, Photographer
Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 3:07 PM on 12.05.05
->> while getting a little relief with some pain killers, from a minor injury from Wilma, I was wondering who is the best newspaper phojournalist of all time. I have come up with a few.; George Foreman, Carol Guzy, David laBelle. Why labelle? I think he photographed true America with his feature photos. Foreman was the true spot news king. Guzy was there for more of the world news breaking events. But then I'm leaving out 3 time Pulitzer winner william snyder
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Michael Schwarz, Photographer
Decatur | GA | USA | Posted: 3:14 PM on 12.05.05
->> I have to vote for George Foreman, in addition to all those great photos he had the time to beat the crap out of a bunch of guys and make a heckuva grill.

That Stan Forman was quite a photographer too.

Pass me some of what you're having.

Hope you feel better soon :-)
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Justin Sullivan, Photographer
San Francisco | CA | | Posted: 3:22 PM on 12.05.05
->> "But then I'm leaving out 3 time Pulitzer winner william snyder"

Carol Guzy also won the pulitzer three times, and was the first woman to win it.
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Robert Hanashiro, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | | Posted: 3:54 PM on 12.05.05
->> I have always admired the work Greg Schneider and Tom Kasser, both formerly of the San Bernardino Sun.
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Jim Owens, Photographer
Cincinnati | OH | usa | Posted: 5:13 PM on 12.05.05
->> Jimmy Olsen from the "The Daily Planet", No contest.


The guy held on to his job for over fifty years just hanging out with Lois Lane [hubba, hubba], never made deadline, p***ed off the editor every farking day by always becoming part of the story but never capturing it, and got to hang around Superman. I mean, COME ON ! ! That's the kind of job we ALL want !


Think about it.
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Tony Scavo, Photographer
Lemoyne | ohio | USA | Posted: 5:16 PM on 12.05.05
->> Jim

post of the day!

Thanks for the laugh :)
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Tom Ervin, Photographer
Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 6:29 PM on 12.05.05
->> Jim I disagree with you. Jimmy Olsen's only pictures was some guy walking around in tights wearing a cape that his mother made him.

Justin your right Snyder should be near the top.

Robert I heard of the photographers you mentioned . The Sun always had a great record of prodcing top talent.

Maybe I should named this post...your all time photojournalist staff...
Keep it at 10 photogs.
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Michael McNamara, Photo Editor, Photographer
St Louis | MO | USA | Posted: 7:03 PM on 12.05.05
->> A staff of ten? That is a little hard, but I'll take a stab at it, in no particular order. I came up with this list in about ten minutes, so please don't hold anything against me.

Weegee
Bill Frakes
David Turnley
Carolyn Cole
William Snyder
Carol Guzy
Pete Souza
Vincent Laforet
Joel Sartore
Louis DeLuca
Mike Davis would be the editor.
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Jeff Stanton, Photographer
Tucson | AZ | USA | Posted: 7:25 PM on 12.05.05
->> There have been a lot of excellent photographers throughout the years. Many have never seen the popularity of those listed here. They showed up everyday, did a great job, produced solid work and did so without a lot of fanfare. Pulitzers and various other awards are not the end-all of greatness.
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Jeffrey Haderthauer, Photographer
Wichita Falls | TX | USA | Posted: 7:34 PM on 12.05.05
->> Nice so far, but I'd like to add Smiley Pool to the list.


As for a staff... I'd have to go with all the people at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in the mid-90's- John Beale and Martha Rial especially. Seeing their work on a daily basis is what really got me interested in photojournalism.
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Bob Croslin, Photographer
St. Petersburg | FL | USA | Posted: 7:36 PM on 12.05.05
->> I'd vote for David Turnley as well. Just about every one of the images you think of when you think "David Turnley" was shot for the Freep.

It's sad to think that if David Turnley was getting his start in this business today he wouldn't have 1/10 the opportunity to do the same work for a newspaper.
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Tom Ervin, Photographer
Palm Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 8:51 PM on 12.05.05
->> My all-time newspaper staff is:

Carol Guzy
William Snyder
David laBelle
John Metzger
John White
Carolyn Cole
Vincent Laforet
Louis Deluca
Stanley Forman
David Turnley

Best Editor........Mark Edelson
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Robert Seale, Photographer
Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 9:55 PM on 12.05.05
->> David Leeson.
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T.J. Hamilton, Photographer
Grand Rapids | MI | USA | Posted: 9:58 PM on 12.05.05
->> Don't forget Peter Parker, he shot pretty nice photos of himself as Spiderman didn't he?
he he he.
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Tim Gasperak, Photographer
San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 10:14 PM on 12.05.05
->> I'll second Smiley Pool and Turnley.

And while he's not technically a newspaper guy, I've gotta throw in a vote for Jim Nachtwey. No single photojournalist's view of the world has changed me more than his.
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
New England | | USA | Posted: 10:37 PM on 12.05.05
->> This list is to hard to come up with.

I might have said Brian Walski a while ago. I loved his stufff from the Boston Herald and his work at the L.A. Times was awsome (until he made a fateful mistake in altering a photo shot in Iraq).

When I think of the best newspaper photog of all time I have a multiple set of criteria which no one fits.

A photog is a "complete" photog, or one who is dedicated to covering thier local area to the point where they know everything, there are also the "long haul" photogs who just produce good solid work every day without going to war or the Super Bowl or in the Presidential pool.

I think Jack Gruber is probably one of the most "complete" newspaper photographers I can think of. He is an outstanding all around shooter.


Another photog who comes to mind is Vyto Starinskas of the Rutland (VT) Herald. Starinskas produces excellent images day in and day out in his coverage area. He has an outstanding insight to his coverage area and is a fairly complete photog as well. I think the whole of his ability makes him a good candidate.

I think Dick Krause, formerly of Newsday (Long Island) or Jack Smith, formerly of The New York Daily News (he passed away in '98 I think) could be on the list because of their longevity and ability to adapt to damn near anything that was thrown at them (of course Jack Smith used to wear a bullet proof vest and carry .38 in his belt almost all the time).

......is this limited to newspaper, or can we add a wire photog to the list?


I love Weegee's work, but he is no where near a "complete" photog.
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Bob Croslin, Photographer
St. Petersburg | FL | USA | Posted: 10:37 PM on 12.05.05
->> Nachtwey got his start at the ABQ Tribune. That counts for something.
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
New England | | USA | Posted: 10:39 PM on 12.05.05
->> Michael


Stan Forman was an outstanding newspaper photog, he is now an outstanding television news photog. ..... plus I think he has more radios in his car than NASA has in their command center.
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John Lee, Photographer
San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 10:59 PM on 12.05.05
->> W Eugene Smith started at the Wichita Eagle.

Also, National Geographic head boss Chris Johns (big boss, not just in photo) also was a newspaper guy.

How about superduo Melissa Farlow and Randy Olsen? Started at the Pittsburg Press.
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Walter Tychnowicz, Photographer
Edmonton | Alberta | Canada | Posted: 11:07 PM on 12.05.05
->> I would like put my two cents in with Harry Benson .He worked his way up on Fleet Street in London with the British papers.That has to account for something.Mary Ellen Mark (ok,not really a newspaper photog,but a great Photojournalist) .I would also like to add not only David Turnley but also Peter Turnley as well .Both of whom are great photographers in their own respects.
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John Lee, Photographer
San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 11:11 PM on 12.05.05
->> i second peter turnley. much more interesting and complicated photo than his brother.
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Dave Prelosky, Photographer
Lower Burrell | Pa | US | Posted: 11:18 PM on 12.05.05
->> Anyone seen Vince Musi and Callie Shell lately? Add them to the Pitsburgh Press alumni list.
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 7:50 AM on 12.06.05
->> Each and every newspaper photographer has the potential of being the best on any given day by simply approaching their work with compassion for their subject and their reader.

Hats off to all shooters who gives it their daily best.

Everyone one of us can screw in a light bulb as well as the best of them. HA!
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Gary Bogdon, Photographer
Orlando | FL | USA | Posted: 9:35 AM on 12.06.05
->> I think the staff of the 1980 Louisville Courier Journal (when it was family owned and before it was bought by Gannett) was one of the best ever. They won a Pulitzer Prize as a staff, and the list includes some of the best ever in the business. It was my hometown paper, and where I first got my start. Here is a partial list of their staff, many of these you have all heard of. I think as a staff, they could hold their own with anyone in the business, and as individual photographers they all have done great work over the years.

Bill Luster
Dan Dry
Melissa Farlow
Jay Mather
Jeb Harris
Michael Coors
Barbara Montgomery
Pam Spaulding
Scott Goldsmith
Keith Williams
Durell Hall
Cort Best
Paul Schuman
Bob Steinau
and others, I'm too old to think of right now.
(Photo editors there in those years were Claude Cookman, Dennis Dimmick, Cheryl Magazine, Jim Wilkinson, Mike Martinez, Bud Kamenish, David Yarnold) and of course the legend C. Thomas Hardin
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Doug Steinbock, Photographer
Feeding Hills | MA | USA | Posted: 12:29 PM on 12.06.05
->> Just wanted to throw my 2 cents worth in, but, I don't Mathew Brady's name listed here. For those who do not know, Brady was known for his work during the Civil War; 1861-1865.

He captured incredible images of our nations greatest conflict ... all without autofocus!!! :)
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Max Whittaker, Photographer
Sacramento | CA | USA | Posted: 12:38 PM on 12.06.05
->> Although he's spent his career shooting for magazines, David Burnett has my vote for the most "complete" photographer. The guy can shoot anything extremely well.
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Steven E. Frischling, Photographer
New England | | USA | Posted: 12:41 PM on 12.06.05
->> Max

How can you go wrong with a guy who covered a presidential candidate in 2004 with a 20D, Holga and 4x5 Crown Graphic?

......if only he had started his career with the Tribune in SLC.
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 1:21 PM on 12.06.05
->> "Jimmy Olsen from the "The Daily Planet", No contest."

Duh contest. What about Peter Parker? He actually got some good pictures!
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Matthew Apgar, Photographer
Bridgewater | NJ | USA | Posted: 1:47 PM on 12.06.05
->> I'm surprised to not see Damon Winter's name on the list yet. He may not be 'the best newspaper photog of all time' but he sure is up there in my book.
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Brian Blanco, Photographer
Bradenton | FL | USA | Posted: 4:46 PM on 12.06.05
->> Melissa Lyttle
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John Rich, Photographer
Brookline | MA | USA | Posted: 5:45 PM on 12.06.05
->> All time? -Weegee-
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David Seelig, Photographer
Hailey | ID | USA | Posted: 6:37 PM on 12.06.05
->> Amen Weeggee
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 6:41 PM on 12.06.05
->> Bob,

I haven't thought about Greg and Tom in a long time... They were awesome at The Sun.

Tom,

There is no more an answer to your question than there is to the question, "Who was the greatest painter of all time?"

--Mark
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Mark Loundy, Photo Editor
San Jose | CA | USA | Posted: 6:42 PM on 12.06.05
->> My "Bob" comment was meant for Bert.

--Mark
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John David Emmett, Photographer
Fort Myers | Fl | United States | Posted: 8:49 PM on 12.06.05
->> Stan Grossfeld from The Boston Globe is up there
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Gary Cosby, Jr, Photographer
Decatur | AL | USA | Posted: 11:52 PM on 12.06.05
->> Doug:
(He captured incredible images of our nations greatest conflict ... all without autofocus!!!)

I hate to remind you, but a bunch, and I do mean a bunch, of Brady's subjects were dead. Heck, even I could manual focus that!
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David Brooks, Photographer
San Diego | CA | USA | Posted: 12:08 AM on 12.07.05
->> James woods in Salvador or Ed Furlong in that one movie about photography, seriously though I don't know if this is something that could be itemized, 'all you newspaper photogs line up in order of importance!' What's the critreria...? awards, recognition, longevity, consistency? I like to be believe on most assignments that anyone of us, green or long in the tooth, can capture something as grand as the biggest names, but I'm just a Brookie Alum that can't see past his student loans....we have to believe we're good! ;)
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John Lee, Photographer
San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 1:36 PM on 12.07.05
->> just came up with one...

any of you seen that movie "the paper" from back in 1994? this is the one with michael keaton as a city editor of some sort, glenn close as the managing editor, and robert duvall as the editor in chief. this movie parodied a new york city tabloid paper.

my vote is for the photographer in the movie, the one who no one wanted to send out because she was an insecure psycho freak who gets crowded out at a perp walk, falls, and triggers the camera shutter as it hits the ground, thus getting the shot. i think amanda plummer played the photographer.

her or jimmy olsen. or animal on the show "lou grant." show might be too old for most of the people on this site.
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Eli Lucero, Photographer
Wellsville | UT | USA | Posted: 2:19 PM on 12.07.05
->> In my opinion John Gaps III. Most of his great photos were shot while he was at the AP, but he is now at the Des Moines Register. I used to hate to see him on assignments because I knew that he would outshoot me everytime.
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Brad Wilder, Photographer, Assistant
Lexington | Ky | USA | Posted: 5:52 PM on 12.07.05
->> My vote is for Dave Labelle, but then again I am a little biased.
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Walter Calahan, Photographer
Westminster | MD | USA | Posted: 6:18 PM on 12.07.05
->> Eddie Adams? Why hasn't Adams been mentioned. As an AP photographer his photographs appeared in newspapers around the world. Plus he was a hellofa teacher!

I vote for Eddie Adams. His one picture changed the face of the Vietnam War!
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Michael Myers, Photographer, Student/Intern
Miami Beach | FL | USA | Posted: 5:49 AM on 12.08.05
->> Weegee

http://www.profotos.com/education/referencedesk/masters/masters/weegee/weeg...
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Dick Van Nostrand, Photographer
Bay City | MI | USA | Posted: 7:30 AM on 12.08.05
->> My vote goes to any photojournalist who can maintain a high standard of excellence over a long career without burning out. The only part that may be beyond the pj is long term employment which is a real challenge these days.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 1:02 PM on 12.08.05
->> In the Peter Parker -- Jimmy Olsen debate, I can't believe no one has considered "Animal." This was a guy who worked at a major daily with tons of reporters but seemed to be the only photographer. Yet he managed to choose the right reporter to be with each time something major happened.
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Stanley Leary, Photographer
Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 1:02 PM on 12.08.05
->> After seeing Carolyn Cole’s portfolio presentation at the Atlanta Photojournalism Seminar I would now vote her the best of all.

Reasons:

1) Awesome eye and composition.
a) Graphics
b) Color
2) Very intimate: her photos invite you into situations which I haven't really seen many do other than James Natchwey. But her color palette is a lot better.
3) Did I mention she is doing this covering War, Poverty and Conflict?

There is a reason she has won so many awards this year. She is by far the best photojournalist I have ever seen.
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Stanley Leary, Photographer
Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 1:05 PM on 12.08.05
->> Here are some links to Carolyn Cole's work--You be the judge.

http://www.latimes.com/broadband/photographers/

http://www.nppa.org/competitions/best_of_still_photojournalism/2004/winners...
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Mike O'Bryon, Photographer
Ft. Lauderdale | FL | USA | Posted: 2:04 PM on 12.08.05
->> My take is a bit different....

I've had the dubious destination of working side-by-side with Frakes, Guzy, Michele DuCille, Pete Cross...Joe Elbert...and many more who have passed through Miami. They were and are amazing photographers

The best I ever saw however...day in day out....making great pictures on crappy assignments...and stunning pictures on big assignments was the late Charles Trainor, Sr. of the Miami News. ( I later hired his son Charles Trainor, Jr. at The Miami Herald...and he's in my top 5 too)

Charlie (sr) was just amazing...and he guided so many great photographers...Michael O'Brien...Jim Forbes...William Snyder...Bill Reinke...

Charlie was a great photographer and he made everyone around him a better photographer...and he made amazing pictures of and for the people of Miami for many years...

-- Mike O'Bryon
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Scott Strazzante, Photographer
Chicago | IL | USA | Posted: 3:44 PM on 12.08.05
->> One of my favs is Brian Plonka of the Spokesman-Review, formerly of the late great Copley Chicago newspaper chain. Brian is one of those photographers that can make something amazing out of nothing. In addition, Brian doesn't have to chase conflicts around the globe to come up with intimate compelling images that move people to action. He photographs in his community with passion and compassion. Brian also excels in conceptual stories like his Ten Commandments essay several years back. Just an all-around great artist and journalist. Plus, he's Rob Finch's favorite photographer and that's good enough for me.
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David G. McIntyre, Photographer
Beijing | . | CHINA | Posted: 4:50 PM on 12.13.05
->> There used to be a great collection of shooters at the Sacramento Bee, San Jose Merc. News and the Orange County Register in the 1980's.

Another great shooter was James Ruebsamen at the old LA Herald Examiner. Someone that could blow you away in sports shooting was John Storey in San Fran.

Almost forgot when the Denver Post had Jim Richardson, Lynne ALways, Damian Stromeyer, Rich Clarkson, Eric Bakke, John Leyba's brother, Brian Brainerd, Anthony Suau and some others. The Rocky Mountain News had a pretty good staff at the same time.

It is amazing some of the staff's that have been assembled over the years.
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Joe Mahoney, Photographer
Denver | CO | United States | Posted: 5:18 PM on 12.13.05
->> The Rocky's staff now isn't too bad. ;-)
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