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Formating Cards
Adrian Lam, Photographer
victoria | BC | Canada | Posted: 3:19 PM on 07.11.05
->> I recently read on a link to the Sports Illustrated web site, that one should ALWAYS
format the card in the camera.

My question is does anyone know the reasoning behind this as people have asked me in the past and I don't have an answer for them!

Thanks
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Gabriel Hernandez, Photographer
Harlingen | TX | USA | Posted: 4:01 PM on 07.11.05
->> Hey Adrian,
I always format my cards when I have downloaded my stuff on to my computer. I really don’t know why I format them, but I know that when my card is formatted I have 100% space open in it and enough space.

Gabe
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Adrian Lam, Photographer
victoria | BC | Canada | Posted: 4:19 PM on 07.11.05
->> To clarify, why should one format their card in camera instead of from their computer.
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Brian Light, Photographer
Pennsville | NJ | USA | Posted: 4:27 PM on 07.11.05
->> Just a guess but this is best more likely because this is where and image will be written to the card and by doing it in camera it will be in the format that the camera likes best. Cards are usually only read in a reader, not written to. In any case I only format in camera and I do it every time after I read the card into my computer.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 4:47 PM on 07.11.05
->> The reason for doing it in camera? Because that is what will be saving to the disk and you want to make sure everything is compatible when it goes to write the images.

I'm sure if you look at all of the ones and zeroes in the information from each camera it's hard to tell the difference, BUT it's best if a camera is not trying to write to a card that has been prepped by another make so the camera doesn't get screwed up on where it wants to write it's files.

Notice how when you put a disk into your laptop it comes up as, for example, Nikon D2X. I would be worried if I shot 2 gigs worth of stuff on a Nikon but popped it in my computer and it said Canon EOS Digital. I'm sure Photo Rescue would need to be running within seconds as well.

FYI, card formats are based on Windows protocols. There are ways to reformat in a Mac, but if you are having troubles with a disk writing or reading -- especially if you have to use an image recovery programon a disk -- reformat it in a Windows box first and then pop it into the camrea and reformat again with that camera's protocols.

Yes you can reformat in a computer and pop it into a camera, start shooting and be fine. But why take the risk with your assignments when you are talking about 5 seconds of work?
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William Robert Sullivan, Photographer, Student/Intern
West Palm Beach | FL | | Posted: 5:58 PM on 07.11.05
->> George is correct.

A gaggle of students (including me) at the Poynter Institute were told by a Canon USA rep to format in the card in the camera to start off with a clean slate. Often computers will leave tiny files on there to keep track of the drive (as if it was part of the computer, like the C: drive).

Another thing I learned, don't shoot a card until its almost full, then delete a bunch of pictures and start shooting again. Fill a card and then change cards. This is because when you erase images and then go back to rewrite over the erased images, the file allocation table will get messed up and the disk will become corrupt.

You can usually use a photo rescue program to save the images, but why not avoid the problem in the first place and just change the card.

I also found out about a Lexar recall on the 80x CF cards. So if you got `em, check the website to see if yours if one of the batch that has the error.
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William Robert Sullivan, Photographer, Student/Intern
West Palm Beach | FL | | Posted: 1:03 AM on 07.12.05
->> Sorry guys, I should have provided a link to the Lexar recall I mentioned. It's available here: http://www.lexar.com/support/cust_advisory.html

(If the link doesn't work the info is posted below:)


LEXAR CUSTOMER ADVISORY
JUNE 1, 2005

To: Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II, EOS-1D Mark II, EOS 20D, and EOS Digital Rebel XT / EOS 350D Digital / EOS Kiss Digital N camera customers using Lexar memory cards.

Update: On June 3, Lexar will release a firmware update for its Professional 80x CompactFlash customers who experience a problem with the Canon cameras listed.

Action: To request the firmware update, click on the Return Materials Authorization (RMA) link below. Upon completing the RMA form, a RMA number will be issued. Alternatively, please call the Professional Support line at (510) 413-1233 to be issued a RMA number. (NOTE: Replacement cards cannot be processed without a RMA number). Follow the instructions to send the completed RMA form along with the Lexar product to the nearest Lexar office where the card will be exchanged for a card with the updated firmware. It is not possible to install the updated firmware.

The firmware update applies to the following memory cards:

Lexar Professional 80x-speed CompactFlash 512MB (last 4 digits of card edge stamp is A4B6 or 9171)
Lexar Professional 80x-speed CompactFlash 1GB (last 4 digits of card edge stamp is A4B6 or 9171)
Lexar Professional 80x-speed CompactFlash 2GB (last 4 digits of card edge stamp is A4B6 or 9171)
Lexar Professional 80x-speed CompactFlash 4GB (last 4 digits of card edge stamp is A4B6 or 9171)
For the latest information on Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II, EOS-1D Mark II, EOS 20D, and EOS Digital Rebel XT / EOS 350D Digital / EOS Kiss Digital N cameras, please see Canon's website at
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=PgComSmModDisplayAct&keycod...
To update firmware on your card please visit our RMA page.


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LEXAR CUSTOMER ADVISORY
MAY 19, 2005

To: Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II, EOS-1D Mark II, EOS 20D, and EOS Digital Rebel XT / EOS 350D Digital / EOS Kiss Digital N camera customers using Lexar memory cards

Alert: Recent instances of lost images have been reported by customers using Lexar Professional 80x and other makes of CompactFlash cards in the Canon cameras listed above. Canon and Lexar both extensively test their products prior to release to ensure compatibility across product lines. In this instance, both companies investigated the occurrences and were able to identify the problem through extreme testing and found the reported problems to be rare and difficult to reproduce.

Action: Lexar is making arrangements to release a firmware update for Lexar Professional 80x CompactFlash cards incorporating a correction to the problem with the Canon cameras listed above. Lexar’s firmware update will only address failures when using Lexar Professional 80x CompactFlash cards with the Canon cameras listed. Lexar will update this web page with a Return Materials Authorization (RMA) form and instructions for upgrading Lexar CompactFlash cards when the firmware is available. If you have additional questions please call (510) 413-1233.

For the latest information on Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II, EOS-1D Mark II, EOS 20D, and EOS Digital Rebel XT / EOS 350D Digital / EOS Kiss Digital N cameras, please see Canon's website at
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=PgComSmModDisplayAct&keycod...
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