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Photog crashes into singer....
Chris Machian, Photographer, Assistant
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 9:43 PM on 06.01.05
->> This wasn't smart...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/01/people.lohan.reut/index.html
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Brad Penner, Photographer
Neptune | NJ | USA | Posted: 10:01 PM on 06.01.05
->> Since when does she sing?

-b.
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Mark J. Rebilas, Photographer
Seattle | WA | USA | Posted: 10:05 PM on 06.01.05
->> Since she stopped eating she has plenty of time to sing.
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Chris Machian, Photographer, Assistant
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 10:11 PM on 06.01.05
->> I guess I shouldn't have canceled my subscription to Teen People, but the point I was making was:

"After Lohan made a U-turn to evade Ramirez, he intentionally crashed his minivan into the driver's side door of Lohan's Mercedes Benz"

Some people associate what he does with photojournalism.
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John Riddell, Photographer
Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 10:19 PM on 06.01.05
->> Hmmmm, sounds like a good plot for a major motion picture destined to bomb in the first month of release........oh sorry, been there, done that!
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John Rich, Photographer
Brookline | MA | USA | Posted: 10:45 PM on 06.01.05
->> Interesting that the first comments do not mention the slimeball photographer who did the chasing and the crashing. I'm not a fan of L.L.'s, but if even a portion of the CNN story is true, it reflects on us all very poorly.
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Nick Doan, Photographer
Scottsdale | AZ | USA | Posted: 11:10 PM on 06.01.05
->> Acutally, Lindsey Lohan sings pretty well. You can hear samples of it in "Freaky Friday" and "Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen".

(Yes, I have seen them both. Yes, I like Teen Movies. Make fun of me, and we'll have to fight! :P )

But, the slimeball photographer had to be insane or high to pull a stunt like that. It's guys like this that make everybody (including me) think of paparazzi as the scum of the photography world. I tell people that calling me a paparazzi because I'm a photographer is like callling a massage therapist a hooker. Very Rude and Very Insulting.
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Tony Donaldson, Photographer
Los Angeles | CA | USA | Posted: 11:29 PM on 06.01.05
->> I really don't think you should call a paparazzo a "photographer". They're vultures with cameras.
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 12:10 AM on 06.02.05
->> Now was he really a "paparazzo" or just a crazed "Wannabe" who saw a recent episode on the ET Channel where they follow "paparazzi" around. The article is not clear. I have seen many "Fans" think it is cool and try to be like the paparazzi.
He may have been thinking I can make some money if I get a pick.
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Steven Georges, Photographer
Garden Grove | CA | USA | Posted: 1:16 AM on 06.02.05
->> "even a portion of the CNN story is true, it reflects on us all very poorly."
Yea just like porn stars reflect poorly on actresses and actors. They both act.

A feature/entertainment reporter came in last week and called us paparazzi's. It wasn't the first time he did that. I threw him out of the photo lab. He doesn't exist to me anymore.
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 2:18 AM on 06.02.05
->> Mark, keep zinging those lines out there... you crack me up!!!
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Brad Penner, Photographer
Neptune | NJ | USA | Posted: 2:25 AM on 06.02.05
->> I can't believe what I'm reading here.

From
http://www.dictionary.com:

pa·pa·raz·zo n. A freelance photographer who doggedly pursues celebrities to take candid pictures for sale to magazines and newspapers.

dog·ged·ly adv. Stubbornly persevering; tenacious.

Where does it say anything about illegal activities or idiotic behavior or scum of the earth?

One paparazzo screws up so we bash the entire group? Show some tolerance, folks. I wonder if they have a website where they bash photojournalists as an entire group every time someone is caught cloning out a background or moving a soccer ball into or out of a frame. "There go those wacky photojournalists again!" Or even better, maybe they have a website where they get together and say "This is why people don't like us." (That sound familiar to anyone??)

This guy is a moron. There's no doubt about that. But does that make all paparazzi morons? There are morons in -every- walk of life. And besides, celebrities -love- the paparazzi. They -need- them. How else do they keep the public's attention? Paparazzi = exposure = ratings. Are there paparazzi who go overboard? Of course there are. Are there "photojournalists" who go overboard? OF COURSE THERE ARE. Do we want to be lumped in with them? OF COURSE WE DON'T.

I'm sure there are plenty of paparazzi who stick to the red carpets, the nightclubs, and the public areas which happen to have a view of "so-and-so's" backyard. (How many times have you, as a photojournalist, been told you can't set foot on someone's property, so you stand just outside the property line and shoot anyway? Be honest now!) I'm sure there are paparazzi who never break the law, or infringe on anyone's rights. There have to be, or they'd all be in jail, like this bozo's going to be. Do they want to be lumped in with him? No, probably not.

And besides, celebrities know what they're getting into, and if they can't handle the attention, then they should've picked another line of work. But just because there are a few rotten apples doesn't mean the entire orchard needs to be burned to the ground.

As an aside, if it weren't for this moron, we wouldn't even be talking about Lindsay Lohan, which is all she and her publicist really want, anyway.

-b.
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Dick Van Nostrand, Photographer
Bay City | MI | USA | Posted: 5:53 AM on 06.02.05
->> The paparazzi are all part of the food chain starting with the publishers of celebrity rags who pay outrageous prices for direct flash or long lens photos of the celebs. Next comes the paparazzi who chases the celebs for the big bucks. Next comes the celebs themselves, who crave and complain about the publicity which drives the public's interest in the 'who's doing what to whom'. The last bite in the food chain are the people who buy the celeb rags by the ton and then complain about the paparazzi who violated the privacy of their celebrity idols.
I'm thankful my career was in community photojournalism and not in the celebrity swill business. At least when I retired I could take genuine pride in having helped some really great people, who were 'real celebrities', tell their stories.
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Michael Hickey, Photographer
Kokomo | IN | United States | Posted: 9:07 AM on 06.02.05
->> What I find most disturbing was Chris calling Lindsay Lohan a singer.....come on!
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Joe Nicola, Photographer
Fort Worth | TX | USA | Posted: 9:55 AM on 06.02.05
->> Interestingly, in the new issue of American Photo (I think), of the 100 most important people in the photography industry, there is an entry for three guys who are paparazzi.

So I guess there is something useful about the job they do for Am Photo to heap such high praise on them. But at least the guy who ran into Lohan is out some serious cash for bail and might see some jail time, too.
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Michael R. Sisak, Photographer, Student/Intern
Commack | NY | USA | Posted: 10:11 AM on 06.02.05
->> At least he didn't call her an actress. Because that term need not apply, either.
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Jack Howard, Photographer
Somerville | NJ | USA | Posted: 10:44 AM on 06.02.05
->> Hmmm....do you think the selling price of Ramirez's 'exclusive crash photos' will cover his legal fees?
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Randy Chow, Photographer
Long Beach | CA | United States | Posted: 12:12 AM on 06.05.05
->> There is a long and somewhat interesting article on the paparazzi species of photographer in today's LA Times. They touch on the Lohan sitch:

http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-et-paparazzi4jun04,0,4210802.s...
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Julian Jenkins, Photographer
Meridian | ID | USA | Posted: 2:22 PM on 06.05.05
->> Randy- Great link and good reading.


Julian
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Jim Colburn, Photographer
Omaha | NE | USA | Posted: 3:31 PM on 06.05.05
->> "...it's unlikely Cartier-Bresson ever dressed as a llama to blend into a herd grazing near his subject as the National Enquirer's photographers did to capture Michael J. Fox's wedding."

I guess the LA Times never heard the famous HCB "dressing up as a kangaroo" story when he was on assignment in Australia for Life Magazine.
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Jason Grow, Photographer
Gloucester | MA | USA | Posted: 10:13 PM on 06.05.05
->> To be fair to HCB, dressing as a kangaroo was all the rage in Paris for a while -- anyone who was anybody jumped on the marsupial bandwagon...
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Thomas E. Witte, Photographer
Cincinnati | OH | USA | Posted: 10:28 PM on 06.05.05
->> Well, it took nearly three years but thanks to Jason, Sports Shooter has it's first recorded usage of the word Marsupial. Now let's all do the Unicorn Toast for those of you that know how to sing it.
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Jack Howard, Photographer
Somerville | NJ | USA | Posted: 10:32 AM on 06.09.05
->> Interesting piece in today's NYTimes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/09/movies/09pap.html?pagewanted=1

Personally, I don't like the usage of 'photojournalist' in this article.
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