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Nikon TC14 E converter problem
Tom Wilson, Photographer
Newmarket | ON | Canada | Posted: 11:11 AM on 05.09.05
->> I recently picked up a Nikon TC 14 E from a list member but when I put it on my D2H it stops down to F22, causes a dark image, and won't allow the aperture to change with the function dial. Is this a common problem? I believe it is the correct converter for the 300 3.8 AFS. Is there an easy fix or is this a repair job?

The converter looks new, and the contacts are clean.
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Dave Cheng, Photographer
Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 11:16 AM on 05.09.05
->> How's the mechanical linkage for the aperture switch? It's the thing that rattles around when you shake the converter. It should move freely. That's what mates the aperture control on the body to that of the lens, and also keeps the lens aperture wide open when you're not stopping down for a shot or DOF preview.
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Drew Brashler, Student/Intern, Photographer
Tempe | AZ | USA | Posted: 12:22 AM on 05.11.05
->> Have you tried putting the tele on the lens first then the two connected on your camera?? The reason being is I remember with the tele I had you needed to put the tele on the lens first. But the tele I had wasnt a Nikon version.


Drew Brashler
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Tom Wilson, Photographer
Newmarket | ON | Canada | Posted: 12:56 PM on 05.17.05
->> The mechanical linkage appears to move freely.
I've tried mounting it to the camera first, and to the lens first, but no change.

How many of the small levers in the converter are supposed to be spring loaded?
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Jerry Laizure, Photographer, Assistant
Norman | OK | USA | Posted: 1:23 PM on 05.17.05
->> Do you have a TC 14E or TC 14E II?

I think only the TC 14E II is compatible with the silent wave lenses.
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Tom Wilson, Photographer
Newmarket | ON | Canada | Posted: 1:28 PM on 05.17.05
->> It is a TC 14E.

There was another thread that said there was essentially nothing but a cosmetic difference between the E and EII (
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=15416).
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Lee Weissman, Photographer
PLAINVIEW | NY | USA | Posted: 1:47 PM on 05.17.05
->> http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5&productNr=2129

TC-14EII is made for "s" lenses, and is backwards compatible in certain cases. I don't beleive the earlier converter works on the "s" lenses which would be why they made the next generation
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 1:50 PM on 05.17.05
->> Tom,

Check the part of the mechanical linkage that protrudes from the back of the converter. It may be bent and is not making proper contact with its counterpart on the camera

Nikon uses a mechanical method of stopping down the lens. Inside the camera body is a small lever that connects with the linkage on the lens or converter. It keeps the aperture fully open for focusing purposes and then it drops to let the lens stop down when you shoot and then a spring pops it back open.

Could also be the spring on your lens' aperture lever.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 1:56 PM on 05.17.05
->> Tom,

One more thought. There are 2 linkages that rattle around.

one is an outside "ring" on the converter which tells the camera what F-stop the lens is set out. The other is the actual lever that stops the lens down and it's right next to the glass part. This second one is the one I suspect is bent and not making contact with the little lever in the camera.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 1:58 PM on 05.17.05
->> One more thing and I promis I'll stop.

When looking at the lever that stops the aperture down (the one by the glass) look at the front part of it as well.

The lever needs to make contact with the camera's counterpart and the lens must make contact with the one on the converter.

Sorry. I'll put my TC-14E down now and stop. Promise. I swear. Really. I mean it.
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Tom Wilson, Photographer
Newmarket | ON | Canada | Posted: 2:06 PM on 05.17.05
->> The converter looks pristine, nothing bent in the slightest.
George, what about the spring on the aperture lever are you referring to? The lens works perfectly without the converter attached.
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Tom Wilson, Photographer
Newmarket | ON | Canada | Posted: 2:21 PM on 05.17.05
->> When mounted on the lens, looking at the converter from the rear, there is a small lever that lines up slightly to the right of the "1.4X" on the barrel of the converter. When mounted on the lens should that lever be moveable by hand? Mine doesn't move, and I'm guessing that is the aperture transfer mechanism from the camera to lens (just a guess).
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 2:56 PM on 05.17.05
->> Tom you should read my post on the teleconverter and my experiences with it,in the thread you referenced,there are more than cosmetic differences between the two. It is currently the last post on that thread. We could not get the teleconverter to mount at all so you have gotten farther than we did.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 3:20 PM on 05.17.05
->> Louis,

The 14-E is designed with a little flange along the front mounting plate that keeps it from attaching to lenses it is not compatible with.
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Nic Hume, Photographer, Student/Intern
Victoria | BC | Canada | Posted: 1:15 AM on 05.18.05
->> Tom,

I'm recently purchased a TC-14E from Sol Neelman down in Oregon specifically for use on my 300/f2.8 AF-S II lens and my D2H ... it works perfectly with no problems at all. AF is fine, as is aperture setting, etc. etc...

Just to make sure we're talking about the same glass here, my 300/2.8 has the following markings: On the gold plaque on the top of the lens: "NIKON ED / AF-S NIKKOR 300MM 1:2.8 D II / Made in Japan" and in white, on the bottom of the lens: "Nikon / SWM ED IF o52".

The T-C is marked "Nikon AF-I Teleconverter TC-14E 1.4X" on the top and "made in japan" on the bottom" ...

If this is the same combo that you're using, I think it would be reasonable to assume that there's something wrong with the T-C and get it looked at by a repair shop.

Hope this helps a bit.

--Nic

P.S. Just a thought, but it might be worthwhile trying the T-C on a friends lens / camera if you know someone with similar gear to yourself to see what happens. Also, try it with a 70-200 if you've got one...
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Nic Hume, Photographer, Student/Intern
Victoria | BC | Canada | Posted: 1:17 AM on 05.18.05
->> Nearly forgot,

In an earlier post Tom said ">> When mounted on the lens, looking at the converter from the rear, there is a small lever that lines up slightly to the right of the "1.4X" on the barrel of the converter. When mounted on the lens should that lever be moveable by hand? Mine doesn't move, and I'm guessing that is the aperture transfer mechanism from the camera to lens (just a guess)."


It might be worth noting that mine DOES move. It requires a small amount of pressure to overcome the spring-loading on it, but it most certainly moves and opens up the aperture inside the lens when it does.

--Nic
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Tom Wilson, Photographer
Newmarket | ON | Canada | Posted: 8:25 AM on 05.18.05
->> Thanks for all your help folks. Unfortunately I don't have another shooter around here with the same lens.

Nic mine is the AFS not AFS II version of the 300 2.8, not aware of this making a difference, however.

Looks like it's either a repair job or a return to seller.
Thanks again for the invaluable assistance with this little problem.
Tom
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Jon Blacker, Photographer
Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 8:49 AM on 05.18.05
->> Tom,

Why don't you just take it to Nikon? They're only in Mississauga at Dixie Road & the 401 - you could drive it in about 40 minutes.

They'd be able to tell you very quickly whether there's something wrong with the converter or if it's a problem with your existing gear.
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Tom Wilson, Photographer
Newmarket | ON | Canada | Posted: 9:44 AM on 05.18.05
->> Thanks for the suggestion Jon, but it was an internet purchase from a list member; when they see a US serial number on it they will likely decline service. There's a large notice about that on their website.

"If you purchase Nikon branded photographic or digital imaging product from anyone other than an authorized Nikon Canada dealer, beware that Nikon Canada does not, and will not, provide parts, repair services, warranty service or technical support for any such product.

Nikon Canada only offers repair services or parts (including warranty service and technical support) for products purchased from one of its Authorized Nikon Dealers."
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Jon Blacker, Photographer
Toronto | ON | Canada | Posted: 10:44 AM on 05.18.05
->> Tom,

I have never had an issue with non-Canadian purchased Nikon products, and I have been an NPS member for about 15 years.

In practice, that statement will typically only apply to warranty service on new equipment which I fully understand and respect. However, for example, if you purchased that converter used from a Nikon Canada retailer (ie: Vistek, Henry's or Aden), why should you not be entitled to service?

I have had after-warranty service provided without question in the past, most recently to an old, Florida-purchased 20-35 with a blown aperture that was turned around by NPS in 22 hours during the NHL play-offs last spring, no questions asked relative to where I bought it.

The worst that can happen is they won't service it and you'll have to work it out with Sol.

For the sake of a 40-minute drive or a phone call....
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Tom Wilson, Photographer
Newmarket | ON | Canada | Posted: 7:52 AM on 05.20.05
->> I appreciate that Jon.
I've been an NPS member for over a decade myself, and have twice been refused service on "grey market" items.
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George Bridges, Photographer, Photo Editor
Washington | DC | USA | Posted: 10:02 AM on 05.20.05
->> Tom,

I understand the grey market attitude. At least not honoring a non North America warrranty. But if you are paying for the repairs.....

And how do they know where you bought it? It seems to me that if you were on a trip to the States and a camera or lens crapped out and you bought a new one from a U.S. dealer then they should repair it in Canada.

How would they know you bought it used or from an authorized dealer in the U.S.?

Just another complaint about Nikon's service of late. It would seem that with all of the folks jumping to Canon, NPS would at least try to make those loyal pro customers very happy with service.

Most of the time when at a big event and NPS is on-site, they've been great about getting gear repaired fast and all of the reps have been great to deal with. Same goes for the crew that Canon has at the Super Bowl each year. Lots of great folks who bend over backwards to help the photographers with a trailer in the photo compound.

(and to be unbiased, I've heard lots of complaints about Canon's repair services as well)
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