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|| SportsShooter.com: Member Message Board Strobes and such Jon Winslow, Photographer Clifton Park | NY | US | Posted: 8:56 AM on 03.13.05 ->> Got to admit, strobes and such intimidate me. I have read a little and seen a few people working with them, but I do not know much about how they work, what equipment is needed, etc. Last week one of the other people shooting at the NYS basketball championships let me take a few shots with the strobes he set up. It was so nice! How great is it not to have to shoot at 1600 or worse? Does anyone know of any posts which provide tutorials or advice about using and buying strobes? Thanks  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Paul W Gillespie, Photographer Annapolis | MD | USA | Posted: 9:00 AM on 03.13.05 ->> I am sure if you do a search here you will find plenty of posts and articles. I will give you the link to my simple page of strobe tips for basketball. http://pwgphoto.com/html/basketball.html good luck Paul  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Ana Zangroniz, Photographer Schenectady | NY | USA | Posted: 9:21 AM on 03.13.05 ->> Jon, Dave Black has several tutorials on his website, http://www.daveblackphotography.com. They range from lighting with Nikon flases to using Sports strobes. I started lighting indoor sports while still in college, and got hooked. Working for the Gazette, I strobed all of my high school basketball games this season and I LOVE doing so. It adds depth and quality to your images that you just can't get with availible light. I keep the setup very simple, requiring no more than 10 minutes of prep time. Almost all of my February update is high school basketball shot with strobes: http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=2980 If you have any other questions, please, don't hesistate. Shooting at 400 ISO, 1/250th s, F/4 rocks! ~Ana Z.  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Rick Burnham, Photographer Enfield | CT | USA | Posted: 9:45 AM on 03.13.05 ->> Thomas Witte also has a set up documented on his website which you can access through his members page. Depending on your needs you can do it for a modest cash out lay and have a decent setup. You can see hockey lighting samples at http://www.sportsshooter.com/rickspics/hockey Any questions email me off list.  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Peter Huoppi, Photographer Burlington | VT | USA | Posted: 12:16 PM on 03.13.05 ->> http://www.sportsshooter.com/news_story.html?id=81 http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=7284  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Michael Fischer, Photographer Spencer | Ia | USA | Posted: 3:34 PM on 03.13.05 ->> Jon I love strobes and lighting - about as much fun as you can have with your clothes on. In addition to the other suggestions, Let me also recommend dg28.com, the website of SS member Neil Turner and one really fine shooter who has a techniques section you should study very carefully. Michael  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Brian Jackson, Photographer, Photo Editor South San Francisco | CA | USA | Posted: 6:16 PM on 03.13.05 ->> Jon- There are many different routes you can take and many different budgets you can have. Starting at $250 all they way up to $6000. Personally, I started at the $250 range and have added components as I've needed them. Here's a thread on the subject for the budget minded: http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB6&Number=... Here's a post I made to a different group with what's needed to get started, or at least the route I went: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/artisticaction/message/1597 Paul's write up is good, except if you're going the small lite setup, I would say go with the 285's instead of the 283's as they have the built in variable power control and the zoom head helps a bit as well. I also have some 13' lite stands. I also just picked up some Lowell poles for when I'm using super clamps on the bleacher railing so I can get the lite above the Band Kids's head :) Sure, you could go with the Canon 550/580's or the Nikon SB-800, SB-28, etc, but you don't need TTL, you need light. Set it once and forget about it. For the price of one of those flashes, you can have an entire setup ready to lite 1/2 of a court for HS gyms. Also, it's been referenced here serveral times, but http://www.arenastrobes.com by Patrick Murphy-Racey has lots of good info.  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Steve Daggs, Photographer Washington | IL | USA | Posted: 9:44 PM on 03.13.05 ->> Jon, I just updated my member page with some prep basketball shots and have described my setup in my member comments. Shots #1-#6 are with my Nikon SB-24 shoe flashes. Shots #8-#10 are at Carver Arena with an Elinchrome 600ws strobe setup that belongs to a fellow photographer I occasionally shoot with (very nice). Here's the link: http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=4023 Here is a link to two photos that show the clamp and pole setup I use to hold the flashes (scroll to the bottom of the thread): http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00B5bD Sports Shooter member Clark Brooks has a great setup for lighting gyms. Check out his member page too. Steve  This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions John Berry, Photographer Madison | VA | USA | Posted: 7:01 PM on 03.14.05 ->> I tried lighting youth basketball for the first time last Saturday. Photos are on my page. Image #10 shows the setup, shot from the opposite end of the gym. My setup was a lot like Steve's, two 550EX's clamped to bleacher handrails, fired with pocket wizards. I had them set at 1/4 power...should have been 1/2 power. I would have liked a little less ambient light. I was about 2 stops above ambient, and from what I've read here on SS, I should be 3 over ambient. John  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Patrick Murphy-Racey, Photographer Knoxville | TN | USA | Posted: 8:31 AM on 03.16.05 ->> http://pmrphoto.com/%20howto/ http://www.arenastrobes.com/more.html and finally: http://www.arenastrobes.com/arenakits.html pm-r  This post is:  Informative (1) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Jon Winslow, Photographer Clifton Park | NY | US | Posted: 10:54 PM on 03.16.05 ->> Thanks folks -- you've got me pumped up. I am shooting on Friday and I feel more confident about breaking out the lights. I have 2 550EXs with the STE2 transmitter. If I don't come home with something more cool than 1600 iso and 1/250, it won't be from lack of trying.  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Mark Perlstein, Photographer Plano | TX | USA | Posted: 8:45 AM on 03.17.05 ->> I really like using heavy duty electical zip ties instead of clamps or gaffer tape as they leave no marks when you cut them when you leave. And they are a whole lot lighter to carry in your bag. Any light stand can be zip tied either horizontally or vertically to the bleachers  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Caleb Simpson, Photographer, Assistant Dallas | TX | USA | Posted: 9:47 AM on 03.17.05 ->> Jon, you might have problems getting the lights to fire with the transmitter. It won't work well if it does not have walls to bounce off of or is within a reasonable distance from the transmitter. The only sure fire way to make sure your strobes pop are PocketWizards. There is also a larger infrared transmitter out there that might work, but do not know for sure. Neil Turner mentions it on his web site.  This post is:  Informative (0) | Funny (0) | Huh? (0) | Off Topic (0) | Inappropriate (0) |   Definitions Stanley Leary, Photographer Roswell | GA | USA | Posted: 12:52 PM on 03.17.05 ->> I would recommend spending a week in a workshop with someone like Patrick Murphy-Racey. If anyone has questions about how to learn more about lighting I would be glad to spend time teaching anyone for a small fee. I would bet Patrick Murphy-Racey would also be glad to teach you. Ask when he has some time available and go to Knoxville for a day or two and learn all you can. It is one thing to read about it and it is even better to learn from the masters and have them right there as you practice. Pat can also sell you the equipment you need. He is the expert on the Elinchrome line. 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