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Wireimage and the NBA
Tom Hogan, Photographer
Elk Grove | CA | USA | Posted: 1:51 PM on 01.20.05
->> I was just surfing through WireImage and noticed there were no NBA action photos on the site. Many of celebs in the crowd but no NBA action.

Is there a reason they do not offer NBA photos?
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Allan Campbell, Photographer, Assistant
Salem (Portland) | OR | USA | Posted: 2:24 PM on 01.20.05
->> Getty has the contract to provide NBA photos.
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Tom Hogan, Photographer
Elk Grove | CA | USA | Posted: 3:57 PM on 01.20.05
->> Maybe I was not clear in my question. I know Getty shoots the NBA as does AP and just about everyone else. Are you saying that Getty is the only authroized seller of NBA photos for commercial use? and for that reason Wire Image is not interested in distriubuting only editorial use?
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Allan Campbell, Photographer, Assistant
Salem (Portland) | OR | USA | Posted: 4:12 PM on 01.20.05
->> Thats correct you can shoot NBA for your own editorial organization but no resales except through Getty. Getty has the NBA pretty tied up as a solo gig.
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Bob Levey, Photographer
Richmond/Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 4:33 PM on 01.20.05
->> That is correct.. as a WireImage shooter.. I can shoot an NBA game for editorial purposes for other clients,but if there are celebs or non NBA people in the crowd, I can send those up, but no game action!!!

I know there are is another service simialr to WireImage that is posting NBA photos on their site, unknown if they have an agreement with the NBA....

Bob
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Tom Hogan, Photographer
Elk Grove | CA | USA | Posted: 4:45 PM on 01.20.05
->> Wow, this is a little confusing.

If I shoot an NBA game for a client for Editorial purposes, can I then also let ESPN magazine use it for editorial as well? I beleive I can, just want to make sure we don't have some weird type on teh credential that says only the credentialed media outlet has authorization to use my photos.

I am not concerned with commercial use, just editorial.

I still don't understand why wireimage would not be interested in NBA action photos for editorial use.
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Bob Levey, Photographer
Richmond/Houston | TX | USA | Posted: 5:05 PM on 01.20.05
->> Im reading straight from the NBA credential that last received for a game that I shot, basically it says, "the bearer or his assigning news organization shall be limited to news coverage of that Game by the assigning news organization to which the credential is issued." The entire wording on the credential can be seen here... Im sure you can get your anwser by reading it..

http://www.boblevey.com/nbacred.jpg

Bob
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Louis Lopez, Photographer
Fontana | CA | USA | Posted: 5:08 PM on 01.20.05
->> The NBA declines our requests for access through BEImages (Wire Service) as well, unless we have an actual assignment from a pulication. We can not just shoot the game and then circulate the photos to publications that subscribe to our service. It isn't that the other wire services are not interested, the NBA won't authorize access with out an editorial assignment. I know my rep is working on this as it is quite frustrating.
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Robert Ashcraft, Photographer
Clinton | MD | USA | Posted: 5:55 PM on 01.20.05
->> Louis makes a very interesting point. Does anyone know if the same is true for college ball?
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Allan Campbell, Photographer, Assistant
Salem (Portland) | OR | USA | Posted: 6:03 PM on 01.20.05
->> Tom,
My understanding is only the organization listed on the credential has the rights to publish the images. If you resell or release it to other organizations you are in violation of the agreement. As others have said WireImage and others do not get game action from the NBA due to not getting a credential in their name. I can get a credential for my Newspaper group or a specific client, but I never get to upload NBA to WireImage. I would love to see it happen but I do not think it will any time soon.
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Tom Hogan, Photographer
Elk Grove | CA | USA | Posted: 6:12 PM on 01.20.05
->> Thanks for all of your input. I submit photos to ESPN Magazine and like everyone else, the photos are used from time to time. I know many of the photogrpahers in ESPN Mag are not ESPN Staff or Getty so I wondered how they get in with NBA photos.

I have never been credentialed from ESPN Mag but my boxing photos appear on a regular basis....but I know Boxing is way different from the NBA.

NBA is still very grey to me...or maybe I am one of the few that are actually living up to the agreement on the credential and only letting use from the outlet I am credentialed for.

Maybe it is the NBA's way of controlling images and who is able to use photos from an NBA game.

Example: Joe's Basketball Magazine would probably not get an NBA Credential so they would never get to print NBA photos in thier publication. This way quality is controlled somewhat....Just a theory.

Tom
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Allan Campbell, Photographer, Assistant
Salem (Portland) | OR | USA | Posted: 6:12 PM on 01.20.05
->> Robert,
I always add WireImage to my credential request for almost everything I shoot, as long as it is ok by the original client. I have found that almost everywhere grants the request without problem. Better safe than sorry.
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