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Those that have on headphones @ football games
Richard Rector, Photographer
Sammamish | WA | US | Posted: 11:02 PM on 11.15.04
->> Are you groovin' to an easy listening station, to calm the nerves, or are you listening to the game?

If the game, are you using it to help with some aspect of shooting (ie. "So-n-So drops back in the pocket, looking for what's his name...")? Does it help? Because I thought the broadcast was delayed just a bit (a second or two).

Reason I ask, there were just three fun pix posted (football) and all were wearing headphones. It's not the first time I've noticed it either.
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Brad Wilder, Photographer, Student/Intern
Lexington | Ky | USA | Posted: 11:13 PM on 11.15.04
->> I usually listen to the game. When my eye is to the camera, it's hard to see what's going on everywhere. The radio announcers in the press box generally have a much better view of the play. They will always call the formation including the number and position of the wide-outs and backs on the offense, the motion man, and if there is an audible on the play. On defense they sometimes call the positions of the linebackers. All of this is usually hard to see from the sidelines. Also, the sideline reporters get info on injuries and other goings-on on the sidelines that may make interesting images. It's easier to get an idea of which players to watch as the game progresses. As for the delay, it seems to only be a fraction of a second. I can be standing next to the sideline reporter and hear his voice in the headphones as he is talking.
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Craig Mitchelldyer, Photographer, Assistant
Milwaukie (Portland) | OR | USA | Posted: 11:13 PM on 11.15.04
->> The Gsme. it helps keep track of important things like so and so just broke an all time record, who and who leads the game with xxxx yards rushing, etc. Also the announcers wil sometimes help you pick up the play, so and so lines up in the I, looks like a screen pass to who and who, balh, blah. Sometimes you will be able to not look for the run and look for the recievers to make a nice grab becuase the announcers will give the play away. Also good for info when your editor asks if you have a photo s of number XX because he set a new single game record or something like that. If you already know it, you can file the photo before they even ask for and it makes the desk very happy :)
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Neil Wade, Photographer
Philadelphia | PA | USA | Posted: 11:32 PM on 11.15.04
->> Besides the above-mentioned reasons, I do it to keep "UFOS" from chatting my ear off. It also helps me to concentrate on the game. At high school games I'll listen to AC/DC or something fast to keep me excited and focused on whats happening on the field.
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Joe Nicola, Photographer
Fort Worth | TX | USA | Posted: 10:11 AM on 11.16.04
->> Also helps to get ID of a player when you didn't get the number/name.
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Marc F. Henning, Photographer
Bentonville | AR | USA | Posted: 1:51 PM on 11.16.04
->> listening to the game for pretty much all of the reasons listed above. it helps keep you focused on the game and away from staring up the skirt of the cheerleader next to you. (:

i really don't do that, just couldn't resist the comment. i hope to god no incriminating photos show up in fun pix.

marc
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Jerry Lai, Photographer, Student/Intern
Evanston | IL | USA | Posted: 2:51 PM on 11.16.04
->> I was going to try that once at a game this year - especially since our team (NU) runs so many draws, screens, play actions, and any other sort of crazy misdirection you can run out of a spread attack. But when I started asking around for a walkman from friends in the newsroom in order to give it a shot a few weeks back (because I had seen pros do that in earlier games), the other photogs and reporters started looking at me funny like, "Who is this guy? Are you for real? That's hardcore, dude."

So partially because I couldn't find anyone with a walkman, and partially buckling down to peer pressure and the desire to look "cool," I said screw it. I know, I know, I'm such a loser.

But no really, I think listening to the game is a good idea. Maybe this Saturday for the season finale. Screw what the others have to say... I can take it ;-)
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Doug Holleman, Photographer
Temple | TX | USA | Posted: 6:36 PM on 11.16.04
->> Neil said: "->> Besides the above-mentioned reasons, I do it to keep "UFOS" from chatting my ear off."


HA! Cool, I actually coined a new sportsshooter catch phrase!
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Doug Holleman, Photographer
Temple | TX | USA | Posted: 6:41 PM on 11.16.04
->> Wearing a radio headset or earpiece of some sort is something I have contemplated for a long time, but never have done it. I think it could help, but I'm a clumbsy sort of guy and I'm just not comfortable with more stuff hanging on me when I have to run up and down the sidelines with my photo stuff. I just know somethings gonna get in the way and I'm going to trip and bust all of my gear, and perhaps some part of my body that's necessary for taking photographs.

Who's got the ultimate goof-proof small, light-weight, wireless radio thingy for football shooting?
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Brad Wilder, Photographer, Student/Intern
Lexington | Ky | USA | Posted: 6:54 PM on 11.16.04
->> My radio:
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=707269

My earbuds:
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=426057/search=koss



They're both great.
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Brian Light, Photographer
Pennsville | NJ | USA | Posted: 6:59 PM on 11.16.04
->> At the High School Level I've actually been piped in to the coach's conversations on occasion to give me a heads of up where the play is designed to go. For Pro Baseball the radio broadcast works well as they pass on useful info that can help set up shots and I would guess that football broadcasts could also provide insight for that as well. You can get headset that are very small, but it can sometimes be a bit harder to find AM/FM ones as many are only FM. In any case the size and cost really is nothing to worry about with them.
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Richard Rector, Photographer
Sammamish | WA | US | Posted: 9:29 PM on 11.16.04
->> Thanks for all the replies. I've actually thought, more than once, that listening in to the coaches would be very helpful. I'll have to see if I can make that a reality.

Brad, I have the radio you link to above. Like you said, works great.
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Kristen E. Conway, Photographer
Culpeper | VA | USA | Posted: 12:02 AM on 11.17.04
->> The high school footbal team I cover had radio coverage of all their games last year. As a non-football fan listening really helped me with what was going on. This year the station was sold so that ended and I don't think I did nearly as well.

As far as the radio I use, I was in Wal-Mart and found a "Suprema radio action"--$1.00 FM radio with a built in mini flashlight. It's far from high quality, but for that price I could get one a game (which I didn't need to do.) It has a little clip so I could attatch it to my sleeve or collar so there wasn't much room for the wire to go and get tangled.

For the earphones, I like using the seperate earbuds. That way I can keep one in to listen to the game, but still keep the other ear clear to hear what's going on on the sidelines.
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Chris Williams, Photographer, Student/Intern
Rancho Cucamonga | CA | USA | Posted: 12:13 AM on 11.17.04
->> How would you be able to pipe into a high school coach's conversation? Would you need a scanner of some sort...or?

Chris
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Paul S. Clapp, Assistant, Photographer
Tucson | AZ | USA | Posted: 1:07 AM on 11.17.04
->> http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=2410
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Neil Wade, Photographer
Philadelphia | PA | USA | Posted: 9:42 AM on 11.17.04
->> Yeah Doug, I like the "UFOS" comment!
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Brian Light, Photographer
Pennsville | NJ | USA | Posted: 9:51 AM on 11.17.04
->> Chris... some HS teams use Simple FRS or GPRS radios.
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Jonathan Castner, Photographer
Broomfield | CO | USA | Posted: 11:57 AM on 11.17.04
->> For the rare times when I am shooting NFL, I listen to the game for whatever out of my narrow field of view info I can get. Besides that I listen to music with in ear phone buds to both keep me entertained while I am in the groove and to block out the gawd-afwul noise that comes with grandstand sports. Before I got the noise reducing ear buds I wore earplugs at football games - I just hate the noise and the comparitive silence helps my concentration.
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Les Stukenberg, Photographer, Photo Editor
Prescott | AZ | USA | Posted: 12:47 PM on 11.17.04
->> Sorry to get a little off an a tangent but Jerry Lai's response hit a nerve with me. I am glad Jerry was honest enough to admit he bowed to peer pressure and my response to that is screw what others in the newsroom think, use whatever tools help you do your job better than anyone else. In a few years when Jerry's working for a major daily or freelancing for some big name sports mags because he anticipated and got the key shots on a consistent basis with the help of a tool as simple as a walkman as his past cronies are serving burgers at McDonalds because they can't get a job in the field, then maybe they'll get the value of another tool we can use.

Our sports reporters don't get the fact that I arrive early set up and light every indoor game or match that I can. Why do I spend the extra time? Because I want to make the best image I can on each and every assignment. What's funny about this is that they consistently ask why my images are so much better than the other photogs.

My point here is use whatever tool you can to work better than anyone else.. There are a lot of good shooters out there looking for work so make yourself stand out from everyone else.
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Jerry Lai, Photographer, Student/Intern
Evanston | IL | USA | Posted: 1:12 PM on 11.17.04
->> Oh great, now I look like a pushover who's swayed easily by a crowd... haha. Awesome.

Not to try to save face or anything (right, right?), it was really more of me thinking of the idea a few days before the game and frantically asking around trying to find someone with a unit they could lend me. Sure, a lot of people including reporters and photogs I asked started commenting about how they thought it was pretty hardcore and a bit much for a college daily. Which is fine. I've also gotten a lot of similar reactions about why I show up at games like 2 hours early - just to scope a place out, check settings, chat it up with some pros in the business, etc - but I still do it anyway... like Les said, we do it to produce the best images we possibly can.

OK, so maybe this rant of mine here was to try to save face and make me not look like such a big pushover... whatever. Anyway, that said, time to go ask around for a walkman or make a trip down to the local Circuit City!
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Les Stukenberg, Photographer, Photo Editor
Prescott | AZ | USA | Posted: 8:44 PM on 11.17.04
->> Jerry, I didn't think you were a pushover and I doubt you're the only one who has heard and done these same things but like I said you had the guts to admit it. You're probably young and now in your life and especially at a college daily is the time to develop the work ethic and bag of tools to help you along in your career.

So no worries about saving face... you didn't have to I'd rather someone be honest and upfront than put on an a show of false bravado.. So whatever you do in life do it to the best you can with whatever you have available.
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Henry Hsu, Student/Intern, Photographer
Arcadia | CA | USA | Posted: 9:51 PM on 11.19.04
->> Wow, the radio is some really great idea! I shall try this at the ND vs. USC game!
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