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Photo edting books
Craig Kohlruss, Photo Editor
Fresno | CA | USA | Posted: 1:22 PM on 08.21.02
->> I'm relatively new to the photo editing world (dark side) and have been looking for any help, advice, tips, etc. on editing, staff management, and selling ideas. I've done a lot of searches for books and the like but the pickings are slim. I've seen a thread here on photo books, but wondered if anybody knows of anything for photo editors.
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Brad Mangin, Photographer
Pleasanton | CA | USA | Posted: 2:47 AM on 08.22.02
->> Craig,

That's a tough one...there certainly aren't many contemporary books out there about picture editing. The only one I ever had was the classic: Picture Editing and Layout: A Guide to Better Visual Communication by Angus McDougall (Hardcover - January 1990).

Since I didn't take as many good classes as you did at SJSU and never was smart enough to be a manager I have never researched books about management and selling ideas.

Where's Jim McNay with a good answer when you need him?
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Matt Hevezi, Photographer
PSC 557 Box 914 | FPO AP | USA | Posted: 3:03 AM on 08.22.02
->> Mark Dolan at Syracuse University teaches a great class in photo editing and dept management. He may be able to recommend some good sources for books, etc. I will try to find an email to him. I'm sure he'd help you out or at least send you to someone who could help.
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Tim Clark, Photo Editor, Photographer
Nashville | TN | USA | Posted: 2:15 PM on 08.22.02
->> I'm also interested in any good books on photo editing. I have the book that Brad refers to. If Mark has any suggestions I would like to know what they are. I have looked for some without any luck. Maybe someone should write one.
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David A. Cantor, Photo Editor, Photographer
Toledo | OH | USA | Posted: 2:30 PM on 08.22.02
->> Craig,
A seminal text like "Pictures on a Page" by Harold Evans is a good start even if is largely outdated, given all of the changes in computer generated page design. The McDougall book is great, even if I'll never get my copy back after I lent it to a news assistant during my NYT stint...
The VCQ section of News Photographer has always been a consistently good source of information as well as the Poynter site which has ongoing discussions and pieces on editing and staffing issues.
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Joe Gosen, Photographer
Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 2:42 PM on 08.22.02
->> Here's a link for the VCQ (VizBib) for a listing of books and articles that David Cantor mentions above.

http://jcomm.uoregon.edu/~vcq/vizbib.html
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Craig Kohlruss, Photo Editor
Fresno | CA | USA | Posted: 1:19 PM on 08.24.02
->> Thanks for the help. I also have the McDougall book but, while it does teach good basic theory, I think it's a bit dated for some of today's newspaper design. I'm also looking for ways to be more persuasive about good photo use since the folks I work with are somewhat hardened in their ways. I think the VizBib index looks like a good place to start looking. Thanks Joe!
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Jim McNay, Photographer
Santa Barbara | CA | USA | Posted: 7:19 PM on 09.02.02
->> A couple of suggestions just to prove to Mangin I DO read these messages!

There is a book called, "Picture Editing" by Tom Ang now in its second edition. I have not had a chance to spend much time with this, so I cannot speak about its merits. Ang is British, but then so is Harold Evans who did the classic "Pictures on a Page" mentioned above, so maybe this is a plus.

One book worth finding on some of the out-of-print sites is "The Right Picture" by Ken Heyman and John Durniak. They look at the same sets of contact sheets and then each makes an argument for his choice. Great stuff. Included are pictures of Hemingway, the JFK funeral and shots of Marilyn Monroe with then husband Arthur Miller, plus many others more like what local photographers cover every day.

Try www.abebooks.com or one of the other out-of-print services to find this gem.
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Brad Mangin, Photographer
Pleasanton | CA | USA | Posted: 9:53 PM on 09.02.02
->> I must agree with the Great McNay on this one...and I am VERY impressed to find him making posts to the message boards on Labor Day!!!

I totally forgot about the classic: The Right Picture." This book is FABULOUS! I bought this book when I was in college and read and re-read it many many times. Fascinating conversation back and forth between Heyman and Durniak makes you feel like you are with them looking at the negs and contact sheets. I strongly recommend this book to anyone who likes looking at pictures and editing them.
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Grover Sanschagrin, Photo Editor, Photographer
Albany | CA | USA | Posted: 4:09 AM on 09.03.02
->> That book, of course, is located here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0817457267/sportsshooter-20
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